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Bringing AI to Your Campus Interview Series

An interview with Paul Pigram

Paul Pigram

Paul Pigram, Expert in Applied Physics at La Trobe University

Paul Pigram is a distinguished physicist specializing in surface science and nanotechnology. He serves as the Director of the Centre for Materials and Surface Science at La Trobe University in Melbourne, Australia. His research focuses on understanding and controlling materials at the nanometer scale, particularly exploring chemical and molecular properties and processes at surfaces and interfaces. Professor Pigram’s work has significant applications in biomaterials, functional materials, and thin film technology.

In this interview

In this installment of Bringing AI to Campus: An Interview Series, we sit down with Paul Pigram, an expert in applied physics at La Trobe University. Paul’s work bridges physics, materials science, and artificial intelligence. His focus is on how AI can drive innovation in applied science, particularly in areas like surface characterization and material analysis. During our conversation, we explored his journey, his ongoing projects at La Trobe, and how AI is helping shape the future of scientific discovery.

 

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From Physics to AI: A Natural Progression

Paul Pigram’s work at La Trobe University is rooted in applied physics, with significant crossover into chemistry and materials science. He explained how his research delves into surface science—understanding what’s happening at the surface and within the bulk of complex materials. “We’re working on understanding the structure and behavior of materials using advanced instrumentation to get a detailed look at their elemental, chemical, and molecular compositions,” he said.

As the research progressed, it became clear that the data his team was generating was rich and complex—far too vast to analyze using traditional methods. “We found that the data we were collecting was incredibly rich, and we needed better ways to analyze it. That’s where AI and machine learning came into play,” Paul noted. It was this need for deeper analysis and better insights that led him to explore how AI could be used to unlock new understanding in materials science.

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AI and Machine Learning in Action at La Trobe

At La Trobe, Paul leads a team that uses AI and machine learning to analyze materials data in novel ways. His team applies these technologies to explore multi-dimensional datasets—going beyond surface-level insights. “AI allows us to dive deeper into the data, exploring it in one, two, three dimensions, and even across time,” he explained. This multi-dimensional analysis is key to understanding the complexities of materials, particularly in fields like surface science and characterization.

Pigram emphasized that his work is highly applied, focusing on solving real-world problems. “At La Trobe, we’re not just experimenting with AI for the sake of it. We’re looking at how AI and machine learning can be applied to real-world challenges in materials science,” he said. This practical approach has led his team to test various AI models, looking for the best methods to analyze their data. “There’s an enormous universe of AI approaches out there, and we’re constantly testing to see which one gives the best insights for our specific datasets,” he added.

While they modify existing machine learning models to fit their needs, Paul is clear that inventing new algorithms isn’t the primary focus. “Our main goal isn’t to develop new machine learning models from scratch. Instead, we’re focusing on adapting and refining existing ones to suit our applications,” he said.

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Student Engagement: Creativity Meets Science

A significant part of Paul’s work at La Trobe also involves preparing students for the world of AI and applied science. He believes it’s crucial for students not only to gain technical skills but also to develop creative thinking and problem-solving abilities. “We want to create students who are not just technically proficient but also disruptive thinkers. We want them to go into industries and challenge the status quo,” Paul said.

Paul’s passion for student development extends beyond the lab. He shared a story about a seminar series he led, where students were encouraged to step out of their comfort zones. “I ran a seminar series some years ago on nanotechnology, and I wanted students to not only attend but also write about what they learned,” he explained. “We had 60 students showing up every Tuesday evening, and by the end of it, they had written dozens of short, insightful pieces on the topics we covered.”

This emphasis on communication and creativity was transformative for the students. “Many of them came back later and told me how that experience improved their ability to communicate scientific ideas clearly and concisely. It’s a critical skill in the sciences and incredibly valuable,” Paul added.

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The Role of AI in the Future of Applied Science

Looking forward, Paul is optimistic about the future of AI in applied science. He sees AI becoming an integral part of research and education at La Trobe and beyond. “AI is allowing us to see and understand things we couldn’t before. It’s giving us a new way to explore the world of materials,” he said.

As AI becomes more commonplace in universities, Paul believes its influence will spread across all disciplines, not just the sciences. “I can see AI becoming as ubiquitous as Microsoft Office is today. It could become a tool that every student has access to, no matter their major,” he shared. This broad adoption, Paul believes, will drive the next wave of innovation, both in academia and in industry.

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Advice for Educators and Institutions

For those looking to integrate AI into their research or teaching, Paul offers simple but powerful advice: start by focusing on the real-world problems AI can help solve. “AI has incredible potential, but it needs to be applied in ways that add real value. Focus on how AI can improve outcomes, whether that’s in research, industry, or student education,” he said.

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